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If this is your first visit to my personal site, WELCOME
HI EVERYONE:
As I am no longer the Commodore of the r/c boat club WEST VALLEY R/C MARINERS; So, I have converted this site of mine back to my personal boat site, where I can report on that R/C stuff which interest me.
The WVRCMariners is holding their annual Veterans Day Scale Regatta THIS SATURDAY November 12, 2011
at west end of Litchfield Park Lake, just north of Indian School Road and old Litchfield Road ["T" intersection]
My 5 1/2 foot paddlewheeler COTTON BLOSSOM, from the movie SHOWBOAT, may then work as I dreamed it should....this time! Once again, reconfigured pittman arm drive to prevent binding. See you at the pond! I will be out there at 8:00am putting out maneuvering course. If you have time would appreciate help. Chuck indicated at our November meeting last weekend that trophies will be given for best model whether it runs on the maneuvering course or not.
COTTON BLOSSOM click on pic for a bigger version of it or others below
JERRY FLETCHER has joined WVRCM and is trying his hand at building a paddlewheeler. Here's the result:
The rustic look is really great!
Recently met Richard Pierson a RC Flyer who is also trying his hand at RC Boating by trading his very old
Piper Cub for an equally old Tug! Here's the "before" pic and the first "After pic". Great matching of wood work!
On to other things:
For those thinking of buying a radio for the first time I have added a link in left column to an article I just read
that explains easily and clearly about various types of radios and the how and why they are so.
ROWLAND
Thoughts on creating random matrix assignments for sail race heats
When I was asked to be the RD for the AMYA Region 5 Seawind Championships, it caused me to revisit a computer program I created 10 years ago when I was the RD for the AMYA 36/600 Championships, in which we had 24 boats with several of the top skippers in the country and used what I would call a "filtered" random system of heat assignment.
But there seems to be a great deal of confusion about heat placement so I thought I would make an attempt to clarify it.
It starts with the conclusion that at some point, we have too many skippers racing in the same race and we need to split it into parts. There are several alternatives:
1. You could have separate races, with what one predetermines are the "good skippers" in one set of races and everyone else in a totally separate set races that do not interact. But that requires having "enough" skippers of each experience level to
have two reasonable sized races.
You could have separate sub-heats, for a series of races, that interreact with each other in any number of ways. There are two basic types of such systems:
A. A system in which one's performance on "race day" has a dominant influence in how you are assigned in each group of heats constituting "one race". Promotion-Relegation is one form of such a system. In fact, it is easy to use such a system with an otherwise random system as described below that basically has everything set AHEAD OF TIME, SO THAT THOSE WHO ARE ON THE BUBBLE AND KEEP MOVING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE TWO CLASSES OF HEATS, WHICH ARE USUALLY PRESET FOR THE GOOD SKIPPER CLASS TO
GO FIRST AND THE REST TO ALWAYS GO SECOND OR VISA VERSA.
Whether you decide who shall be in the better skipper class by previous performance
or after one or more random qualifying heats of everyone, on race day [which themelves can be preplaned, and random card assignments given out ahead of racing] However, the seeding is done; then another two sets of heat cards are prepared. But in this case, all cards for the top half of the skippers have the same heat assignment. The bottom half have the other heat assignment.
But the heat assignment as to who goes first, is randomly decided. So all skippers except those that move, will experience a random occurance of racing two races in a row.
Thereafter, simply have the last three skippers of the first heat....[whether top or bottom half doesn't matter] of each race set turn in their predone race heat cards, as they finish. As the last three skippers of the second heat finish they turn in their pre-scheduled race card and , at the same time, receive one of those turned in from the first heat. Immediately after the finish then, the last three finishers of the first race can be given the turned in cards of the second heat.
The advantage of this system is that while otherwise those who move back and forth between the two heats, tend to be the same skippers and when you move up you sail in two heats in a row, and then when in the next race, you again don't do as well, you move back down and then sit out two races in a row; While most skippers who do not movefrom their original group, always sail in alternate heats.
Whereas, with predone heat assignments, it can be precreated with a criterion of keeping the consecutive starts kept to a minimum AND ITS OPPOSITE, of course, most get the same number of two race sitouts to do other things.....like more time to change settings on your boat and the bathroom. Yes, of course, you may be given a card [if you are one of those that move] that causes you to sail two races in a row [when had you not moved you were not scheduled to do so].....but at the same time.....its just as randomly likely that the card exchanged by someone else gives them a race to sit out when they otherwise would have raced two in a row [had they finished such that they not moved. Since the actual result in both cases is random in that the exchange of cards is random and therefore tend to off set each other, so the overall result remains random
There are other systems. Incidentally, there is an extensive section of the Winter 2004 issue of Model Yachting, that describes several systems.
A second type of heat distribution systems:
B. Are what could be basically described as "random system" that tries to divorce themselves from making a distinction between "experienced good skippers" and the rest of the skippers, and treat each other equally in terms of heat placement, as the primary consideration.
It is not my purpose, to deal with how you make the above decisions. There are many very rational reasons to choose any of the above paths; depending , among other things on the relative numbers of experienced skippers.
What I will try to do, is to deal with alternative B, which might also be used in conjunction with A. above.
First of all, using the term "random" is, to my mind, an incomplete description of what probably are the universal goals we seek in such a system. It is used primarily to simply differentiate it from other race performance based systems, which admittedly are not random. What we are really seeking is an "equal" and fair distribution of the exceptions, which will inhernetly occur in any random system that is concerned with various criterion, particularly:
a) The obvious, that each heat has the same number of boats.
b) Equally experiencing sitting out one race, sitting out two races in a row, and racing two successive races. [INHERENT TO ANY RANDOM HEAT SYSTEM]
c) Each skipper racing against every other skipper the same number of times, Hopefully spread out over the regatta. That is you don't race a skipper many times in a row and never see them again.
d) As Mr. Steve Lang noted in his article, in the above referred to issue of Model Yachting, one problem he recognizes of the "Odd& Even" system he describes is that you can't determine who is in what race until all heats in a particular race have been completed; and that uncertainty continues throughout the day.
Probably most would prefer, to the extent possible, to have a pre-regatta determination of the heat matrix, where they can anticipate how long they will have
beteween races.
e) It is always possible that one or more skippers will drop out at some point in the regatta and indeed, if one allows "last minute registrations" skippers added, at the last minute. Therefore it is desirable that any preregatta determination of heat placement, done so it is available to skippers well ahead of each race; be able to relatively easily adjust to such changes; so at least, in one particular, "a)" above, the number of boats in each heat, are as even as they can be, which is again, quite possible.
The AMYA guidelines on regatta procedure set forth that a matrix type of system, in fact, BE RANDOM. They also suggest that the person creating the matrix, SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHO IS IN ANY PARTICULAR HEAT. Unfortunately, that is a real problem with the "odd/even" system. It is not a pure random system, unless you are willing to conclude that the next time you come in first, that it was a "random event". "One is always odd" and last place is which ever it is each time or aternates every time if an uneven number of boats are in each heat.
In fact, it is each skipper that creates the race matrix by the place in which they finish. The idea is perhaps, that yes although whether you finish high or low in a race, is in large part not a random occurrence, whether it happens to be an even or odd number is truely, random. That is only partially true. Not only are the character of first and last place predetermined; but, since skippers,by their finish, determine what heat they are in......One could specifically determine which heat they were in, in the next race, by simply staying where they are as they begin to finish, OR TO DELIBERATELY DROP BACK A POSITION. That would not be random, in any sense of the word.
Other than that, however, it is a "pure" random system with all of its "pure" system very negative possibilities, I will mention below......WITHOUT ANY ADVANTAGES, except in can be implemented without the need for preplanning, at the last minute; but at the cost of constant uncertainty all day as to how much time one will have between the races one is in.
However, back to the concept of "randomness". Actually, we do NOT WANT "PURE" RANDOMNESS. That is very undesirable. What we want, is what I would call "filtered randomness". Why?
As all know, that are familiar with gambling; the roulette wheel, or dice are pure random producing machines. But we also know that they can result in the same number being created MANY TIMES IN A ROW. In fact over a few number of rolls, the chances of a "pure random machine" actually producing an equal distribution are NIL. Even tho, over many rolls it does even out
When we produce a matrix, we are always dealing with a very small sample segment of a series of random occurrences. And if you simply assigned skippers in a pure random fashion, ie: for example, using a deck of cards as a random generator, where the heat selection for the last boat to be determined had an equal chance of being in one heat as the other……those that drew a red card would be in heat 1 and those who drew a black card would be in heat 2, It is quite likely that the heats would not be even.
But what if I "filter" the process a bit, so that it is no longer "a pure random system"? If there are twenty skippers to race and if I select from a deck of cards 10 that are red and 10 that are black. Then shuffle that "filtered" deck and use it to make heat assignments…….then it results in an equal number of boats in each heat. You can repeat that process for however many races you are running, and you would produce a randomly made matrix, except that it would be limited to an equal number of boats in each heat. And it can be done ahead of time; thus avoiding the problem with the "odd/even" system.
But what about the other criterion we would "prefer" to have in any matrix? Can I "filter" the deck to make them have the "equality" we seek? The answer is mathematically clear. It just isn't possible to make any of the other desirable criterion perfectly equal. There just aren't enough slots in any matrix, to provide for all the combinations that such equality would take. But by using a predetermined matrix we can
discard any that have unnecessary extremes.
So what can I do? Well let's go back to determining ONLY THE HEAT PLACEMENT AS ABOVE. Let's assume taking cards from the deck were not possible, I had to use the whole deck. Is there anything I could do? With a computer that all of us have, these days, the answer is yes. Simply have the computer deal the top twenty cards from a shuffled deck AND assign them to the skipper's list. AND KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY BOATS ARE IN ONE HEAT AND IN THE OTHER. Then simply add the following filter. If the number of boats in the heats are not equal, then reshuffle and do it again and keep doing it again until you finally have an equal number of boats in each heat. Then stop and print the results. It won't take long, given the current speed of our computers in the gig hertz range
Unfortunately, with the other criterion, if you created filters that demanded that they also be equal or reset and try again, what you would find is that, as we mentioned above, it would never stop because such is not possible.
So now what do we do? Nothing? No. You back off from total equality for each criterion, either one at a time, or more if you like and simply change the filters to "not less than" and "not more than" Let the computer run. If after a while it doesn't stop and print, then you have to go back and widen the spread of the limits" Then try again. Finally, the computer will stop and print a matrix within the limits you set.
What have we accomplished? We have a matrix THAT IS AS RANDOM AS IT CAN BE, when all the criterion are considered. Most skippers will sail against most other skippers a reasonable number of times together, even it not "perfectly equal", for example. And what it will prevent, which you can easily get if you "track" a pure random system; that one skipper seldom and perhaps never races against some other skipper. Or one skipper mostly has only one race to sit out; whereas some other skipper finds themselves either sitting out two or almost always racing in two successive heats.
Those kinds of extreme negative results are not necessary. Much of the extremes can be filtered out. In fact, usually the matrix's I've created are close enough that unless
someone kept a written record they probably wouldn't notice when an inequality had occurred!
And of course, you do not need to reprogram your computer, each time it can't find a "fit". You simply start out with the limits set close enough that they are not possible and then have the computer automatically increment the limits after a reasonable number of cycles that do not fit[ie: thousands of cycles in a matter of a few minutes]. First in one criterion and then in the next, etc; stopping only at the point that all
criterion limits as then set, have been met.
The final step then is to prepare a card for each skipper that you can give him, before any races start, that list each race and the heat that they are in. This is particularly useful, in terms of knowing in advance when you will sit out two heats in a row, that allows considerably more free time in which you can do any of many things that having significant time to do them allows. Like going to the bathroom! Which allows races to be run continuously without a periodic “break.”
Once you have arrived at a satisfactory matrix, then of course, you can use it over and over. And you can make several, each with a different number of likely skippers.
Which brings up the final consideration: HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH LAST MINUTE CHANGES, in your beautiful preplan?
FIRST: This is a problem ALL MULTIPLE HEATS SYSTEMS HAVE, NONE ARE EXEMPT. Even the "odd/even system" where you redetermine the mattrix after each set of heats constituting a race. If two boats drop out and both just happen to finish in the same "odd" or "even" catagory of finishes; then you are going to have to make an arbitrary shifting of one the remaining boats from the other heat into the one the two boats dropped out of.
I like to have a set of skipper cards available that are for two less skippers than I anticipate and a set for 2 more. That takes care of what happens in the beginning and insures that with the additions or subtractions of “no shows” , we have the best matrix possible.
Later in the race, if it happens, then the practical way is to say at that point, well, we just can't do what we want and we will have to put up with a bit more "inequality" than we might otherwise have to. Before the regatta starts, the computer can print out a listing of the sail numbers that have been assigned to each heat of each race. It doesn't take but a couple of minutes to scan the list for the two sail numbers that dropped. In many cases they will have been assigned to opposite heats so nothing need be done. When they are not, then you simply make an arbitrary change in the heat assignment of some other skipper. Since they were randomly assigned in the first place, putting them in the other heat, is just as "random". True, if you were to look at a track of all the criterion under your just modify remaining races, you may well exceed the limits of a criterion, you would rather have, and could have, if you wanted to stop everything for a while and have the computer come up with a new matrix, within limits. But since the limits, are wider than we would like, but can't have anyway, perhaps it's not really important, that under the circumstances they got "a little wider". What we really wanted all along, was to primarily eliminate the unnecessary wide limits that blindly using a "pure random system" can create.
I am in the process of reworking the computer program I used 10 years ago in the 24 skipper, 2 day 36/600 Nationals I ran, both as Regatta Director and Race Director, for the WVRCM, at which several of the top r/c skippers in the country attended; At the time, I reset the limits manually, until I got a matrix that looked reasonable. When I get it in a form, that you do not have to go into the program itself, to set limits, but can do so through an input cycle and to print the matrix information and skipper cards; I would be happy to make it available to you. Or if you have any questions, feel free to email me at rowland2@lycos.com.
THANKS AGAIN FOR VISITING
SOME "BIG PICTURE" SUGGESTIONS FOR THOSE JUST ENTERING THE HOBBY
With regard to "Scale models:" Basically none. The sky's the limit. But one matter you might consider: the choice of radio's particularly if you are also interested in sailing. You might consider buying a radio with at least 4 channels, 6 would be better and more than that if you can afford it, tho they tend to get rather expensive. But you will probably find, fairly quickly that you will want as many "controls" as you can get, far beyond simply controlling the rudder and motor.
DUMAS, MIDWEST AND BILLING BOATS grade their kits as to difficulty. Consider starting with nothing more than an advanced beginner or "intermediate" level of difficulty. A kit with a lot of above deck "detail" can take a very long time to complete. While MIDWEST'S Boothbay Lobster boat at 30" , may not interest you specifically, a kit like it is great place to start. Enough detail, without being swamped with work, yet you end up with a really nice looking boat. And big enough, that it makes construction easier.
With regard to "Racing sail boats:" On the other hand, believe it or not, more and more of the best skippers in the valley tend to go with the cheapest $60 two channel radio without recharable batteries. They simply buy a big box of regular batteries and throw them away afterwards. The idea is that once you have had a few batteries problems, if one doesn't mind the somewhat higher continuing expense, its comforting to know that you always have fresh batteries. Todays radio's even the $60 ones, are extremely reliable. And two channels is all you need, indeed many class rules provide that you can not use more than two channels.
On the other hand, a $60 radio usually does not come with rechargable nicads. You can get nicads, but it takes 8 in the transmitter and 4 in the receiver. At $1.20 from Tower or $2.50 locally, you now have an investment close to $100. Usually 4 channel radio's (which will cost about $110-$130) come with nicads and a charger; and it is a one time expense. At least for a couple of years. Perhaps it is a good idea to replace Nicads every two years or so, whether they appear to need it or not, just so you don't have a problem.
Secondly, while there are many "kit" sailboats, there are four main ones, you will find in the local hobby shops: Victorias, Fairwinds, Northwinds and Seawinds. Victoria's are a small 24" boat, sailed mainly on the east side of the valley. Northwinds are 36" and have the advantage of being about $130 and have the long keel; but most significantly gives up many square inches of sail area to the seawind. The Fairwind is the same length, but somewhat broader, with a much shorter keel and therefore simply will not move as well, particularly in very light winds, which is often the case in Arizona. Yet its cost in comparable with the Seawind. The Seawind is 1 meter long, with the long keel
and the largest of the sail areas. It is a very good boat, with enough capability to challange you for years to come. It's cost is in the $300+ range without a radio.
All three are good looking boats and require about the same work to put together. Most of which has been done for you. Perhaps the best thing to do, is find the people you are going to sail with and get a boat similar to what they have. You may want to be very careful before you get a Fairwind, it does have its limitations, in Arizona light winds, which rather quickly will become quite frustrating.
Just to complete the sailing picture, the other common boats, particularly on the east side of Phoenix is the AMYA 36/600 high tech class and the half again bigger Marblehead class at 54 inches. Several of the best skippers in the country sail there, including the 2003 National Champion. However, these boats are generally custom made, carbon fiber and rather expensive; other than, as I said, some use the cheapest of radios! But they move in zephers of wind, you can hardly feel. For the ultimate in sail racing, in the valley, this is it, if one has developed the skill and knowledge to take advantage of it.
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